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Duplicate Woes     posted on 27th of august, 2007

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When I registered on DT, photography grew from a passion to business. I started shooting like hell & once by mistake I stumbled on a Google link showing me in the busiest contributors list. I never knew something like this existed. It somewhat misled me into a feeling of achievement. I started getting an addiction of uploading and editing pictures till I stumbled upon the next misleading list – top contributors. This again invited more trouble because I started uploading almost every image I had in my database.

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With such a huge transfer going on, I somewhat couldn’t keep track of the files I was uploading again and ended up having duplicates on the website. Not many but still there were 2 – 3 files. I ignored it and didn’t disable them thinking that they will just add to the total number of my online files helping me move upwards in the top contributors list. But I started being careful about uploading my files and started using a certain process and structure to ensure that I don’t upload any duplicates. After that I started realizing another mistake of uploading similar pictures on the website, not necessarily the same. As an amateur it didn’t matter me much and I was happy with the wrong rat race I had entered.

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In recent times I started realizing that this doesn’t help me in anyway. As a contributor or photographer what really matters me is money $$$, the diversity of my portfolio, the number of sales and how many people add me as their favorite photographer. I shouldn’t worry about those two lists in anyway. And maybe concentrate more on what can make me a featured photographer one day. One more problem, duplicate or similar files can create is lessening the possibility of x file to have a certain number of sales and reach to a higher level because a similar y file is also having the downloads. Eventually as an image or a concept it doesn’t grow up.

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2 weeks back, I seriously sat down to anti-spam and remove these duplicate files from my portfolio. During the down time I lost some 100 files I re-edited. In short, if I had de-spammed them, they were back to their original keywords but anyway not much of serious spam. Finally I made a list and send it to admin to remove the duplicates. I encourage everyone of you to do the same process to grow as a photographer.

Here are some files in my list that are similar or same –

 

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Comments (18)

Comment by Thefinalmiracle on September 27, 2007
For new readers who read this blog, please note that the "X" sign appears where the duplicate picture existed now removed by admin.
Comment by Thefinalmiracle on September 26, 2007
Thanks a lot for all your words of appreciation. Just a joke - "Hey they aint MY kids!" :P
Comment by Maigi on September 26, 2007
Yeah, I was teasing... PS: But you have a great portfolio. Of course all your kid shots are great, but I have always admired, how you can show in such an interesting way all those everyday items like lamps or pots or water sprinklers. Good luck to you with your new uploads!
Comment by Thefinalmiracle on September 26, 2007
True - bigger portfolio = more exposure, but not when they are similar. The portfolio size should be equivalent to the variety of subjects of the photographs.
Comment by Maigi on September 26, 2007
Good point. But isn't it so: bigger portfolio = more exposure?
Comment by Thefinalmiracle on September 26, 2007
You Bet! I mainly feel that it doesn't make much of a sense of a having a bigger portfolio with same amount of downloads when I can have a smaller one with equal downloads. It keeps everything well organised.
Comment by Maigi on September 26, 2007
Good to know. With our portfolios it's just like with our homes then, it's good to clean the mess from time to time. ;)
Comment by Thefinalmiracle on September 26, 2007
Yes, comparitively the files of which the duplicates were removed show more sales than earlier.
Comment by Maigi on September 26, 2007
So, how is it, does it have any influence on your portfolio to have duplicates removed, more sales on single photos? Or does it have just aesthetic value?
Comment by Maigi on September 25, 2007
Yeah, it's kinda interesting look. I should try it too... ;)
Comment by Thefinalmiracle on September 05, 2007
Hey Tangie, like you said the duplicates have been removed and hence the thumbnails are now seen as a red 'X'. :P
Comment by Thefinalmiracle on August 28, 2007
sorry but forgot to mention. only duplicates will be deleted and seen as a X but originals will yet be seen. So i guess the article will still have some images on it
Comment by Thefinalmiracle on August 28, 2007
I have already notified concerned admins about my process 2 weeks back. After it was completed, I first sent the mail with the image IDs in a proper structure to the concerned person and then posted my article here. I don't know how long it will take for the admin to delete those images, but atleast till then whoever reads this article will atleast understand how pictures which are not duplicates yet similar can be bad for one's portfolio. In this case, I guess you will understand that my article doesn't help the photographer only but also Dreamstime overall in terms of improving their overall portfolio :)
Comment by Tangie on August 28, 2007
Have you thought about the layout of your article once the admin will take down the duplicates? The images will no longer appear :). And your whole demonstration will be ruined I guess. Your duplicates will appear as X and you will not be able to delete them. You will still have the text though...:) And it is important to increase awareness about duplicates. Selection is crucial and we advise all photographers to do the same.
Comment by Tonygers on August 28, 2007
I have a series of folders on my pc now to deter from this kind of thing happening to me. I do think it's good to get the same shot from different angles though as it makes for an entirelly different image.
Comment by Thefinalmiracle on August 28, 2007
The duplicates woes increase if you are submitting to more than one agency. Thats what happens with me. So there is an uploaded folder now. DT is considered first agency that i upload to, so no folder with its name. In the uploaded folder comes another agency 1. folder, then when uploaded files go in there. then within agency 1 folder is agency two folder... so kinda everything goes up to agencies in an order
Comment by Avion49 on August 27, 2007
Great point. I submitted the exact same photo on 2 days without realizing it. As luck would have it, they were bot accepted! Just as soon as I discovered my stupidity, I emailed the file #'s to support and they kindly transfered the numbers to one file and deleted the other. Everyone needs to check their portfolios!
Comment by Kenneystudios on August 27, 2007
You bring up a good point. Contributers really need to keep an eye on dublicate submissions. I had that happen to myself, once. I deleted the duplicate. How does it look to the potential buyer if they see that we have a portfolio full of duplicate? Not very good, I'm sure.
Now when I upload, I have a series of folders on my computer that I move the files through. Before they are uploaded, they are in a folder marked "Ready for Upload." As I am uploading them, I move them to a folder labeled "Uploaded to Dreamstime." There they sit until approved or rejected, where they then get moved to "Accepted" or "Not Accepted" folders. I then further organize the Accepted images on my computer, but this is not the time or place for my perfectionism to be explained. :) Thanks for the post!

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Nikhil Gangavane (Thefinalmiracle)
Pune, IN

I never try to know in which genre my art finds its place in, I just create things that make a most qualified person and a common man feel the same level of ecstasy that I feel at the time of creation

I would be grateful if the buyers of my photographs or illustrations let me know how and where my work is used.


 
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